[Casa-framework] another svn query

[Wes Young]

I should point out the difference between the non-framework version  
of AIPS++ libraries and CASA version is, with the new version of CASA  
we've removed the glish based tasking and all-things-glish, as for  
the rest of the non-consortia libraries, there is no difference,  
none, nada, zilch. What we are doing in xmlcasa is creating a tool/ 
task interface to the library. This interface is "user oriented", the  
fact that we can access it programmatically by compiling and linking  
against xmlcasa is a nice feature but not the main point. What all  
the _cmpt files are about is glue code so we can take xml, generated  
code and access the underlying libraries.

Eventually we will get the doxygen stuff working, but right now there  
are other priorities.

wes
wyoung at aoc.nrao.edu


On 27 Oct 2006, at 21:49, Raymond Rusk wrote:

> Hi Shannon,
>
> ASTRON is further along with Doxygen than we are.  If you go to
> http://www.astron.nl/~gvd/aips++/docxxhtml/classQuantumHolder.html,  
> for
> instance, you get a nice class hierarchy diagram.  It is the non- 
> framework
> AIPS++, of course, but the basic libraries haven't changed that  
> much.  It
> will be nice when we have this level of documentation as well.
>
> Raymond
>
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, jaeger at cpsc.ucalgary.ca wrote:
>
>> au contraire!
>>
>> Doxygen provides a much richer document set the latex generated from
>> the xml, from what I can see.  At least from a programmers point of
>> vies.
>>
>> Based on what I've seen the xml generated documentation is a lot like
>> reading a book, not really a website.  There are also a lot of  
>> comments
>> there that are more about how to use casapy then about the software
>> design.  In fact there is very little to no information about  
>> software
>> design.
>>
>> Doxygen produces a hierarchical set of webpages that even includes
>> class hierarchy diagrams.  A much more useful tool to the developer
>> then stripping out the software design stuff in amongst the software
>> usage stuff.
>>
>> Shannon
>>
>>> Documentation should be in the XML, the headers are generated.
>>> Doxygen on generated headers makes little sense, it could be done
>>> though if there is demand, just not right now.
>>>
>>> wes
>>> wyoung at aoc.nrao.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 Oct 2006, at 17:06, Raymond Rusk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Wes/David,
>>>>
>>>> Chiming in on David's comment about preserving programmer's
>>>> statement of
>>>> intent from the past, one issue I see with our auto-generated
>>>> headers is
>>>> that it makes in-line documentation more of a challenge.  Much  
>>>> of the
>>>> documentation in the old DOs appears in the headers.  That is where
>>>> Doxygen markup would normally appear. Our new framework makes it
>>>> easier to
>>>> lose this information than to retain it.
>>>>
>>>> Raymond
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Wes Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In a word, no.  It's a clean break.  Yes we could have but we  
>>>>> chose
>>>>> to leave the past behind. So you want cvs history use cvs  
>>>>> commands.
>>>>>
>>>>> wes
>>>>> wyoung at aoc.nrao.edu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27 Oct 2006, at 16:11, David King wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing I'd wanted to ask:  what about retaining the revision
>>>>>> history from cvs?  My perusal of the svn doc seemed to indicate
>>>>>> they considered it valuable (I agree), and I think they worked  
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>> to allow it to be preserved on import from cvs, but I dont see it
>>>>>> in the svn repository.  (Is it already too late)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dk
>>>>>
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